After the Crash Podcast with David Craig

Episode 16: Conversation with Melinda Pennycuff (A Client's Perspective on a Wrongful Death Case)

Melinda Pennycuff:

I really, really wanted them to change. That meant a lot to me because I felt like I was doing it to make the roads safer for other people, and I think that my uncle would’ve wanted that too. It was about making sure that this did not happen again and what problems happened that caused this accident that needs to be fixed.

David Craig – Host:

I’m attorney David Craig, managing partner and one of the founders of the law firm of Craig, Kelley & Faultless. I’ve represented people, who have been seriously injured, who have had a family member killed in a semi or other big truck wreck for over 30 years. Following the wreck, their lives are chaos. Often, they don’t even know enough about the process to ask the right questions. It is my goal to empower you by providing you with the information you need to protect yourself and your family. In each and every episode, I will interview top experts and professionals that are involved in truck wreck cases. This is After the Crash.

David Craig – Host:

Today, on After the Crash, we have Melinda Pennycuff, a client of ours, and she is our guest. Melinda, thank you for being a guest on the After the Crash podcast.

Melinda Pennycuff:

Sure. No problem.

David Craig – Host:

So Melinda, why don’t you just start off and tell us a little bit about yourself.

Melinda Pennycuff:

I live in Charlottesville, Indiana. I own a business here in town and I run that business with my father. I came to you to discuss a crash that happened with my uncle, and that’s how we met.

David Craig – Host:

Yeah. And unfortunately, Melinda had the misfortune of her uncle, Robert Hogan, who was with another family on their way back from vacation. They were on I-65 and they entered a construction zone, and your uncle was with people that were close friends of his. I mean, they were almost like family to him, my understanding is.  Construction zones all through this country are extraordinarily deadly.  They shouldn’t be, but they are.  Your uncle was just a passenger. The vehicle slowed down for traffic, left lane was closed and it was merging, cutting down the number of lanes.  They were stopped in traffic when they were struck by a semi that plowed into the back of them. Ultimately, it killed six people, who died that day back in July of 2017.

David Craig – Host:

So, you came to us to help you with that case.  I want people to know that just because there are other people out there that have gone through similar experiences or are going through them, and they don’t know what questions to ask, they don’t know anything about the process. What my goal is with this podcast is to provide information to people and let them know some things. Let them know what to ask and let them know what the process is like. You went through a horrific situation. I mean, your family lost somebody very close to them and there was no reason for it. I mean, there really wasn’t, and we’ll talk a little bit more about the details.

David Craig – Host:

The case is settled, for you people who are listening. So, we’re not talking about something that hasn’t already been settled, and it’s settled with a confidentiality. So, we won’t talk about numbers, which I wouldn’t do anyway. We won’t be talking about the numbers or the conditions, and we won’t even name the defendant, but the rest of the facts are all sorts of things we can talk about. The process of what you went through, we can talk about. So again, I appreciate you coming on here. I know this is not an easy topic to talk about, but there are a lot of people out there going through the same type of situation as you went through. So, let’s first of all talk about how did you know to pick a lawyer? I mean, you ultimately decided that you were the personal representative for your uncle, and that had to not be a necessarily easy decision just to decide, “Hey, I want to take some action on behalf of my family.”

How to Pick a Lawyer for a Wrongful Death Case?

Melinda Pennycuff:

Right. Yeah. Obviously, I had never been through anything like this. Never sued someone for something like this. It was all new to me. Actually, one of the other family members that was involved in the crash had contacted me because she had a son that was involved in the crash. Luckily, he had survived, but she was starting to rack up. She knew that she was going to be racking up medical bills, she knew that she was going to be racking up therapy bills, and loss of income because she lost her husband in the accident, as well as her mother-in-law and father-in-law. So, she had contacted me, told me that she was hiring an attorney and if that would that be something that I was interested in.

Melinda Pennycuff:

At the time, we thought we had to go with one attorney, but I wasn’t sure about that. So, I started doing some research online, looking into it, and realizing that it’s really important that you get representation when you’re dealing with these types of situations. So, I started Googling and looking online about what to look for in an attorney, looking obviously for someone locally because I didn’t want to go with someone who was too far away from me, and so forth. So, that is what I did to do research. When I did that, I found you guys, and that’s when I made the phone call to you to make sure. My initial reaction was, “This is not okay. You can’t drive a semi into the back of somebody and it be okay, and not face some kind of consequences.”

Melinda Pennycuff:

Obviously, I would’ve liked for criminal charges in the case, but didn’t know whether or not that was going to happen at the time. All I knew was that it was horrific, and just different things that I had heard from the coroner and different things I had heard from the funeral person that took care of my uncle’s body when it came back. It just made me more and more angry, and sad, and just a lot of different feelings that you have, and confusion as to why did this happen? How does this not happen again? I don’t want anybody else to go through this. So, my thought process was, “I’m going to make sure that this doesn’t just happen. I know the chances that it will happen again are likely, happens all the time.”  I was frustrated with things not being done and seeing this kind of situation happen when it shouldn’t have. It should not have happened.

David Craig – Host:

I think that’s normal. Normally, there’s that somebody in the family, who stands up and says, “Hey, something needs to be done.” In this case, you happen to be that family member, became a personal representative, and made the decisions for this case. You’re absolutely right. I mean, I think too often, people think it’s all about the money. You hear that all the time and I think the defense and the insurance companies and the trucking companies, they want to make it sound like it’s all about the money, but it’s not. I mean, you can talk a little bit about that. It’s not just all about the money.

Why Should You Sue After a Fatal Truck Accident?

Melinda Pennycuff:

No, it’s not. In fact, I actually felt a little guilt for suing somebody about this, and what would people think that I did that?  Would they think that I was after the money, and it wasn’t. It really was not about that. It was about making sure that this did not happen again, and what problems happened that caused this accident that need to be fixed, and they need to be punished for things that they did wrong as to why this happened. Something had to have gone wrong to make this happen. I think those are normal feelings for people to feel.

David Craig – Host:

For the audience’s sake, this is a case where a semi-tractor trailer, an 18-wheeler, was driving at night, had its cruise control on, and set above the speed limit in the construction zone. The semi went into this construction zone, even though there had been miles of warnings, there had been miles of signs, and flashing lights that said that the lane was narrowing. Despite all that, the semi continued to go forward with its cruise control on. It never swerved, it never braked, until it plowed into the back end of your family’s vehicle.  So, it was one of those that you looked at this and you said, “This should never have happened.”

Melinda Pennycuff:

Right.

David Craig – Host:

Sometimes you see wrecks, where maybe it’s unavoidable, maybe people have taken steps to try to avoid the wreck, but in this case, this truck driver did not appear to have taken any steps whatsoever to avoid this collision. So, then it was one of those things that’s extraordinarily frustrating for your family, as well as for your attorneys.

Melinda Pennycuff:

Yes.

David Craig – Host:

The problem is that you would think about a case like that. You would say, “Okay. Well, guys, it’s pretty straightforward. The semi-driver didn’t brake. The semi-driver didn’t swerve. The semi-driver was speeding. The semi-driver plowed into the back end of a vehicle. They should just say they’re sorry and take care of what happened, and fix and pay for the harm they’ve caused.” But as you know, that’s not what happens.

Melinda Pennycuff:

Right.

David Craig – Host:

Instead, they fight and try to protect themselves.

Melinda Pennycuff:

Right. Yes.

What Happens After You Hire an Attorney?

David Craig – Host:

And you know that firsthand. I mean, you saw the fighting we had to do. I mean, the first beginning part is that you have to hire lawyers. I mean, it’s not like you can do it on your own. You hire a lawyer and then, we have to preserve the evidence by doing downloads of the ECM, or the electronic control module, of the semi. We have to get the cell phone records and look and see what the cell phone records show. We have to get the driving records, and so, I mean, even in a case that looks like it’s straightforward, a lot of work goes into proving what happened that day or what we alleged happened that day. So, how does it feel? I mean, I can’t imagine. So as a lawyer, I’ve done semi-cases for over 35 years. I’m used to that. But as somebody in the family, how does that make you feel when the other side fights you?

Melinda Pennycuff:

It’s frustrating. It is very frustrating. And I think one of the things in the beginning was I didn’t realize how quick they can be. I mean, when it happens, they’re on it right now, whereas I think it was at least probably a few weeks before I even contacted you guys, and not really knowing how important preserving that evidence is, and I don’t think we had any issue with that luckily. Had I known what I know now, I’d have been on the phone that night just to make sure that there was no covering up or any kind of tampering. I’m not saying they did that in this case, but I know in some cases, that can happen. So, knowing what I know now, I’m glad that I got in touch quickly. I probably should have got in touch a little quicker if I had to. Luckily, I would never have to be in this situation again.

Melinda Pennycuff:

Then, when you start the process, you start going through the court process, and they’re changing things, and they’re arguing in court over different motions and all different kinds of things, it can be frustrating because you know that they know they did something wrong. And I know they’re just doing their job, but it can be very frustrating for people who are clients.  I think you just have to go into it realizing that that’s going to be the issue. Luckily, I used to be an investigator on child abuse cases. So, I knew a little bit about how the legal process worked, which probably gave me a little bit more experience in expecting this kind of stuff. For someone who’s never dealt with the legal process, I think that they should know that you’re going to be frustrated, but you got to just take that in and realize it’s part of it that you just have to kind of deal with.

David Craig – Host:

I mean, one of the things that after doing this for so long is that you’re absolutely right. I mean, the trucking company and their insurance companies, immediately, as soon as there’s a bad wreck, they immediately go to it. I mean, sometimes the drivers call dispatch before they call 911, and they put their company on notice, and they immediately start doing damage control. They have what they call first response teams, and they send these people out. I’ve had actual insurance people and trucking claims people at a scene before even the bodies are removed. They’re there that quick. They are there, not to search, I mean, I guess they’re trying to obtain evidence and facts, but they’re there trying to figure out, “How do we preserve and protect our clients? How do we protect the insurance company?”

David Craig – Host:

I’ve met lawyers on the defense that work for trucking companies that in their contract, they’re required to be at the scene within so many hours after a wreck. These are the lawyers. So, you’re absolutely right. I mean, they take steps. They’re immediately doing things to protect their claims, where the family oftentimes are like you. They feel guilty. “Should I call a lawyer? Should I not call a lawyer? What do I do?” They’re hesitant to rush in, but every day that goes by is a day potentially where evidence is destroyed, or lost, or altered, or witnesses’ recollection changes. So, I think you did the right thing in moving as quickly as what you did.

Melinda Pennycuff:

Yeah. I think so too. I would agree with that. It’s a difficult process to go through, and it’s hard when you’re in the process of first dealing with the shock of what has happened because it is shocking. Then, you’re trying to plan the funeral, you’re trying to mourn, and you’re trying to wrap your head around this whole situation. In the meantime, you have to worry about, “Okay, I’ve got to get an attorney for this. I got to find out what happened.” The other frustrating thing that I came across was because the police know how it works, and I had trouble even getting information from the police. I mean, they would just say, “It’s an ongoing investigation. It’s an ongoing investigation.” Then, you can’t even get those answers from them because they’re being very careful, one, I’m sure for criminal trial reasons or potential for criminal charges, but also because they know that there’s going to be probably be lawsuits out of it.

Melinda Pennycuff:

So, that’s another thing that I encountered and that probably some other people are going encounter as well. It’s just something that you got to deal with too, again, in this type of situation, which is why it’s really good to have an attorney to represent you and your interests. I found out more from you guys than I did the police department. The coroner told me more than the police department told me, and that’s another reason why you want to get on it and get on it quick.

David Craig – Host:

And a lot of times, the police department, they’re overwhelmed. After we did their depositions, we found out it was the worst wreck they ever investigated. It was horrible.

Melinda Pennycuff:

Yeah. Yeah.

David Craig – Host:

There were multiple vehicles involved, and it was really bad. They were looking at it from a different perspective and quite frankly, they’re not trained at the level that the people I hire are trained, and so, the police are limited resources.  If you’re counting on the police to do your investigation, then you’re going to come up short because they don’t have the people, the money, or the resources to do it right.

Melinda Pennycuff:

Yeah.

How Does a Truck Accident Investigation Start?

David Craig – Host:

For example, in this case, so what you do is you rule things out. So, we knew that the semi driver was not on his cell phone. We knew that by looking at and subpoenaing his cell phone records because that’s the first thing you think of. When somebody runs into the back end of a vehicle and they’re not paying attention, are they distracted because of their cell phone? So, the first thing we do is subpoena the cell phone records and we found out this driver was not on his cell phone. The next thing you do is you say, “Okay. Was there any evasive action? Was their braking done?” We could tell from the electronic control module. So, there’s a computer in every semi, and we hire experts to download that semi and that data.  That data showed us that he hadn’t braked, that he had his truck on cruise control, and that he was exceeding the speed limit it in a construction zone.

David Craig – Host:

So now, we know that he’s not distracted, we know that he’s got his truck on cruise control, that it doesn’t kick off, and  so he doesn’t brake. So now, you’re starting to think, “Okay, maybe drugs or alcohol.” Well, the police had tested this man, and he did not have any drugs or alcohol in his system. You start eliminating things. That led us to the conclusion that maybe he fell asleep. So, then you start looking at those facts. That’s something the police never did in your uncle’s case. The police never looked to see, “Is it possible that this man fell asleep?”

Melinda Pennycuff:

Mm-hmm (affirmative). Yeah.

David Craig – Host:

So then we hire, in this case, we hired a doctor to actually make the truck driver get examined because he was overweight, he had a big neck, and he had high blood pressure. He had all these factors that would lead you to the conclusion that he might have sleep apnea. So, we said, “Okay, well, he had never been tested by the trucking company. The police weren’t looking at that.” So on your behalf, we had to hire a doctor and have this truck driver examined to see if he had sleep apnea.  The police would never do that.

Melinda Pennycuff:

Right. Right.

David Craig – Host:

In this case, we found out his throat was actually narrow, and our doctor said, “It’s likely that this man has sleep apnea.” If you have sleep apnea, you can drive a semi, as long as you’re being treated. This man wasn’t being treated, so we suspected that he fell asleep because he had sleep apnea, and we hired an expert to say that, and that was our allegation. Now, the case settled. So, we’ll never know what the jury would’ve thought. The case settled, but they fought us. The trucking company fought us. They did not want this truck driver examined. They did not want us to know whether he had sleep apnea or not. And again, I thank you, because as a client, you have allowed us to go in and do our investigation, and find out why did this wreck happen. As a family member, I think that’s part of what you’re trying to figure out, isn’t it?

Melinda Pennycuff:

Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Because that’s the biggest question. Why? Why did this happen? It’s the unanswered question that I couldn’t get from anyone, other than when I hired you guys, and you started investigating, and then things started to make sense. It’s the number one question.

David Craig – Host:

That’s true with every client I’ve ever hired. A client has never asked me, “How much money do you think this case is worth?” Clients always ask me, “Why did this happen?”

Melinda Pennycuff:

Yeah. It’s the number one question. Why did it happen? Why did six people lose their lives? And it’s hard to wrap your head around that, even throughout the years that we were still figuring things out. It’s the question that still remains in your mind of, I mean, I think we have a pretty good idea now why it happened, but yeah.

David Craig – Host:

Well, and the other thing we found out when we got his cell phone records, is that on the weekend prior to this wreck, he had not been sleeping.  He would drive at nights and sleep during the day, but on the weekends, he would sleep at night and drive and be awake during the day. So, he was switching his sleep thing, which is also dangerous. On top of that, we found his cell phone records and we tracked him, and we found out that he had been up and not sleeping. So, you had a combination of a guy who on the days that he should have been sleeping, he wasn’t sleeping. He lied to us about that in the beginning, and it wasn’t until the deposition, we were able to show that. Then, on top of that, we believe he had sleep apnea, and the trucking company didn’t do anything to figure that out. They put this man behind the wheel, and then he killed your family and killed five other people.

Melinda Pennycuff:

Yeah.

David Craig – Host:

I think that’s important for people to understand that we had to hire truck experts, we had to hire sleep experts, we had to hire sleep apnea experts, we had to hire phone experts, record experts, and download experts just to get the company to take us seriously. So, you went through a mediation.  Part of the process, is we sued them. We filed a complaint. We went through all this discovery in order to find all this stuff out, and then we went through two mediations.

Melinda Pennycuff:

Mm-hmm (affirmative). Yes.

David Craig – Host:

Tell folks because most of these people have never been through a mediation and it’s got to be a frustrating process. Tell us about the mediation process.

The Mediation Process

Melinda Pennycuff:

Well, I had never been through a mediation process. I knew what it was. I knew what it involved, but I had never been through one. It can be a frustrating process if you go into it thinking you’re going to settle. I kind of went into it knowing that one, from you guys, that it was not going to settle. And two, just knowing that in my own mind, it probably was not going to be resolved, at least not on the first mediation. And on the second one, I really had my doubts as well, to be honest with you. It’s kind of a back and forth process. You’ve got to go into it, I think, with your mind that you are willing to go to trial on it.

Melinda Pennycuff:

In this case, there was a lot of evidence, I would say, against them. So, I felt very confident in if we went to trial that it wasn’t going to be a problem to go to trial. I think if you put that in your mind when you’re going through the mediation process, it will help you become more confident in that mediation process. Of course, you have a mediator, but he’s dealing with both sides. But if you can come across that, “Hey, I’m not afraid to go to trial,” that is a big part of what they go back to them and say, “Look, you’ve got somebody that they’re not worried about going to trial, so you need to try to work this out.” I think that was really good. You stood your ground on that. I backed you up on that kind of situation, and I think that helps your case when you’re dealing with mediation.

David Craig – Host:

I hear about lawyers all the time who kind of twist their clients’ arms to settle, and that frustrates me because it’s really your choice. It’s not the lawyer’s choice. You should make sure you have a lawyer, who does go to trial, who’s willing to go to trial, who allows the client to make that decision. So, you have to have a lawyer, who’s willing to go to trial, but then you have to have a client like yourself, who’s willing to go to trial because that’s how you ultimately get the best results.

Melinda Pennycuff:

Absolutely. I would agree. And I think it’s important to talk to your attorney. We had talked about different scenarios of, “Okay, what are the strong points to our case? What are maybe any weaknesses that we have in our case?” A good attorney will explain both of those to you and let you, in the end, decide what you want to do as far as when you settle and so forth, or whether or not you go to trial. I mean, I was fully prepared. I had it all scheduled. I was off work. I was going to trial. I would’ve been totally okay with that situation. Is it hard for me to get off work? Absolutely.

David Craig – Host:

Especially when you run your own business, like you do.

Melinda Pennycuff:

Yeah. People think that it’s not, but it can be difficult for especially a business owner to get off because I’m a very small business, and with the whole COVID situation, being shorthanded, and all kinds of different factors going on, it didn’t matter. This was what was important to me, not for the money, but to find out why and make sure that this hopefully did not happen to anyone else by punishing those who did wrong and by not making sure their people were checked for sleep apnea, for not making sleep a priority with their drivers, for not doing all these steps that they really need to do, and they should be doing to make sure that our roads are safe for everyone.

David Craig – Host:

Well, at the first mediation, they gave you a really low offer. At the second mediation, they gave you another low offer, a little bit higher, but still low, and said they would never pay us a certain number that they ended up paying us more than that eventually, but you held in there. Like you said, you knew, “Okay, I’ll go try this case.”  Eventually, you and I talked. You said, “They either pay us this number, X number, or they pay us Y, and Y is less than X, but they have to change their policies.” And again, we can’t really discuss what option they picked, but you chose. You said, “Look, you can pay us more or you can pay us less, but you have to make the roads safer. You have to change things, change the way you’re doing things.”

David Craig – Host:

I’ve done that on other cases and not every client’s willing to do that, and that’s okay, but I think that that’s something that you did, that I give you credit for, that you were willing to stand with me and say, “No. We’ll either go to trial, or you have to pay us X, or you have to pay us Y, and do what we ask you to do.”

Melinda Pennycuff:

Right.

David Craig – Host:

I mean, was that a hard decision for you to make?

Melinda Pennycuff:

It really wasn’t because the change is what I wanted. I really, really wanted them to change. That meant a lot to me because I felt like I was doing it to make the roads safer for other people, and I think that my uncle would’ve wanted that too. So, it was a fairly easy decision for me that, “Hey, I’m willing to take less monetary value if you make a change.” I would prefer that they had taken that.

David Craig – Host:

We can’t say what they did, but we will say that companies, the only way they will change is when they have to change and when you give them incentive, and by letting them pay less money, sometimes that’s enough of an incentive that you can get change. Now, some companies want to change and they want to be safer anyway.

Melinda Pennycuff:

Sure.

David Craig – Host:

I think the best way to assure a company will change is by holding your line, like you did.

Melinda Pennycuff:

Yeah.

David Craig – Host:

We were just not willing to negotiate. Once you said that, you said, “This is X or Y, or we go to trial.” We made it real simple, and at that point, I mean, we were done meeting. We went through two mediations, and the other thing I give you credit for is everybody else settled, everybody settled, except you. You and I, we hung in there, and  that took bravery on your part to say, “Despite what everybody else is doing, my uncle would’ve wanted this.” I gave you credit for saying, “No. You either pay us X or Y, but we’re not budging, or we go to trial,” and that’s what you did.

Melinda Pennycuff:

Yeah, and I liked your whole thing of, “Either meet us here or don’t even call us. Don’t even bother calling us if you’re not going to come at least to here, and then we’ll talk from there.”  I liked that, that way of doing the mediation, and I think that’s what helped get it settled finally. I was very happy with how we handled it, I think.

David Craig – Host:

Well, what else as far as the process, it takes longer probably than what most people think.

Melinda Pennycuff:

Yeah.

David Craig – Host:

Tell us a little bit about that.

Melinda Pennycuff:

Yeah. Don’t be in any hurry. Again, I didn’t feel like I was in any kind of hurry to settle it. Now, I realize that there’s going to be people that probably have medical bills and all these different things coming in, and I don’t know how that process works for them, but obviously with my uncle’s situation, I didn’t have that issue. I didn’t have another family member in there that needed other medical attention, therapy, or things like that matter.  I don’t know how to advise people on that type of situation, but if you’re in a situation where you don’t have those needs, be prepared. Either way, you have to be prepared for it being a long process because it is. It is never settled quickly. They don’t like to admit that they’re at fault for anything and you just got to wait it out. Once you wait it out for so long, you might as well wait it out for the rest and just deal with that.

David Craig – Host:

Certainly, everybody’s different. The other folks who were in this wreck had good lawyers, and there’s nothing wrong with settling.

Melinda Pennycuff:

Sure.

David Craig – Host:

Everybody has to look out for themselves, and everybody in this case had lawyers that were willing to either go to trial or settle, whatever their clients wanted, and that’s all you want. You want an attorney, who respects your opinion, who will settle if you want to settle, and who will go to trial if you want to go to trial.

Melinda Pennycuff:

Yeah. I would agree with that. Everybody’s situation is different. I think all the attorneys, as far as I know, pretty much represented, I think, their clients well. It’s just a matter of what someone’s individual needs are and how they decide to handle things. For me, it was always about making sure, and trying to make sure, this didn’t happen again. That was my number one goal with it.

David Craig – Host:

Is there anything else you can think of that you think that people that are unfortunately just getting ready to go through this process should know about the legal process?

The Importance of Finding a Good Attorney

Melinda Pennycuff:

Yeah. You got to find you a good attorney. Obviously, I’m biased. I think you’re a great attorney. Your people were absolutely wonderful, and always kept me up to date. Any questions I had, they always answered it. That’s the kind of attorney that you want is someone that will listen to you and will do all this work. I appreciate everything that everybody did on this case. You’re going to go through a lot of ups and downs, but just hang in there and get you a good support system. There were times where I couldn’t sleep at night because I would start thinking about this case, and really, what my uncle and all these people went through. That can be difficult, and every time you start meeting through depositions or whatever, it brings all of those feelings back up again, and you’re dealing with it again. That can be tough.

Melinda Pennycuff:

If you have somebody that’s really strong and supportive with, and luckily, I have a great family, my husband and my father. If you can, try to find someone that helps with that support, as well as remember the good times that you had with that person because sometimes you can get really focused on, “Oh my God, I can’t believe they died this way,” and, “I can’t believe this happened.” It’s still surreal to me sometimes, but then I try to remember the good things in their life, and all the fun times that we had together, and all of those different things. It helps you get through this long, tedious process. So, the main thing that I would tell people is just stick in there and realize that you’re going to have this rollercoaster that you feel like you’re on sometimes, but in the end, I think especially for us, it was all worth it. If you can make change, make a change. That’s the most important thing, really, so it doesn’t happen to anyone else.

David Craig – Host:

Well, Melinda, thank you for your courage and thank you for sticking up for your uncle. Thanks for your courage for drawing a line in the sand and sticking by it. That’s the way change happens. So, thank you for being a guest on After the Crash, the podcast.

Melinda Pennycuff:

Yeah. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it and appreciate all your hard work that your firm’s done for me.

David Craig – Host:

This is David Craig, and you’ve been listening to After the Crash. If you’d like more information about me or my law firm, please go to our website, ckflaw.com. Or if you’d like to talk to me, you can call 1-800-ASK-DAVID. If you would like a guide on what to do after a truck wreck, then pick up my book, Semitruck Wreck: A Guide for Victims and Their Families. This is available on Amazon or you can download it for free on our website, ckflaw.com.